# Secret IBC Relayers - An Open Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Secret Network\ **Created:** [October 20, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604 "2021-10-20T17:40:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carter-Woetzel](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/carter-woetzel/32/3575_2.png) [@Carter-Woetzel](https://forum.scrt.network/u/Carter-Woetzel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/1 "2021-10-20T17:40:39Z")
Greetings community, This thread is dedicated to tackling Secret IBC relayers problem. With the way IBC works, we need unique relayers on both the sending and receiving network of any given blockchain communication. Here is the following feedback we are looking for: (1) Which networks would we like to prioritize connecting to? (2) Is there anything special required for relayers from the Secret Network side of hardware or set-up? (3) Who is interested in being a relayer? (4) What should the incentives be for relaying? If you are interested in participating in Secret Network relaying, please comment below as we are forming a list of interested individuals. Thanks, Carter Woetzel ---
**Author:** ![Ryan-BizDev](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/ryan-bizdev/32/2540_2.png) [@Ryan-BizDev](https://forum.scrt.network/u/Ryan-BizDev)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/2 "2021-10-20T17:47:38Z")
From Meeting: 1.) Cosmos 2.) Osmosis 3.) Gravity Dex 4.) TerraLuna (Not necessarily in priority order. Please add your own priority to importance) ---
**Author:** ![Vinegar333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e57/32.png) [@Vinegar333](https://forum.scrt.network/u/Vinegar333)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/3 "2021-10-20T17:55:01Z")
Replace gravity dex with sifchain ---
**Author:** ![Elie](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/elie/32/2414_2.png) [@Elie](https://forum.scrt.network/u/Elie)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/4 "2021-10-20T17:55:19Z")
+1 for Cosmos and Terra ---
**Author:** ![Brendan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/brendan/32/1562_2.png) [@Brendan](https://forum.scrt.network/u/Brendan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/5 "2021-10-20T17:57:10Z")
Resources: [https://hermes.informal.systems/](https://hermes.informal.systems/) > **[GitHub - cosmos/relayer: An IBC relayer for ibc-go](https://github.com/cosmos/relayer)** > > An IBC relayer for ibc-go. Contribute to cosmos/relayer development by creating an account on GitHub. > **[GitHub - notional-labs/notional: Full Documentation of Notional's systems](https://GitHub.com/notional-labs/notional)** > > Full Documentation of Notional's systems. Contribute to notional-labs/notional development by creating an account on GitHub. ![Screen Shot 2021-10-20 at 1.55.49 PM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/enigma1/original/2X/7/7d049b6f165b09ca9a8fe129294590c6e7c20fa6.png) Worst case scenario: We can have Enigma delegate tokens or do a community spend to someone familiar with the process in a jam. Hopefully we can figure it out internally before the launch though. ---
**Author:** ![mohammedpatla](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/mohammedpatla/32/739_2.png) [@mohammedpatla](https://forum.scrt.network/u/mohammedpatla)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/6 "2021-10-20T18:15:06Z")
Yup 1. Cosmos - gravity DEX access (potentially IBC router soon). 2. Osmosis - initially liquidity and demand need a case. I was thinking of just spinning up relayers myself, but the biggest cost is in packet forwarding, which needs a wallet for tx on both ends. ---
**Author:** ![BlockNgine](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/blockngine/32/3257_2.png) [@BlockNgine](https://forum.scrt.network/u/BlockNgine)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/7 "2021-10-20T18:24:57Z")
We already run IBC relayers for many other networks and we will be plugging Secret Network into this relayer cluster ---
**Author:** ![sifmoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@sifmoon](https://forum.scrt.network/u/sifmoon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/8 "2021-10-20T19:09:25Z")
1. Sifchain! Why? Sifchain has unlocked massive value exchange by bridging the Ethereum and Cosmos networks, which enables users to transfer tokens bi-directionally between the industry’s two largest economies for the first time. It’s easy to use, fast & performant, powerful, and allows users to swap across numerous CosmosSDK tokens and Ethereum based tokens (while adding more and more tokens each and every week!). Sifchain is working on connections to other EVM chains as well, where new connections to other blockchains can be spun up within days, making Sifchain your one-stop shop for being able to swap ANY token from ANY network with each other (super cheaply and quickly). Oh, and margin trading is coming in the near future as well 2. The Sifchain team will actually set up the relayer for Sifchain & Secret. It’s actually already underway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![james\_moore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@james\_moore](https://forum.scrt.network/u/james_moore)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/9 "2021-10-20T19:47:16Z")
The comments are suggesting that some of the teams of IBC compatible projects will also be running their own relays to the Secret Network. What effort if any has been made in determining which projects will be running? Also I would advocate picking networks in order of size or users as the main priority. ---
**Author:** ![mlodokov](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/mlodokov/32/2552_2.png) [@mlodokov](https://forum.scrt.network/u/mlodokov)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/10 "2021-10-20T20:33:42Z")
Sifchain is a must too😃 Osmosis got My approval 👊 But really have to consider CRONOS/CRODEX too please 🥲🤩 ---
**Author:** ![gaia](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/gaia/32/552_2.png) [@gaia](https://forum.scrt.network/u/gaia)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/12 "2021-10-21T00:43:29Z")
> [@Ryan-BizDev](#): > > 1.) TerraLuna > 2.) Osmosis > 3.) Cosmos I would run a relayer but I’d need tx costs covered also. ---
**Author:** ![SeanSWF](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/seanswf/32/1101_2.png) [@SeanSWF](https://forum.scrt.network/u/SeanSWF)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/13 "2021-10-24T18:24:36Z")
There are a couple things I don’t understand about Sifchain. 1) it’s not open to US based users and 2) At the moment it seems they only allow you to send tokens to Sifchain and not the other way around, like I can’t send my Rowen, or anything else from Sifchain to Osmosis or Emeris. Can you explain? ---
**Author:** ![rangerranger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/rangerranger/32/1250_2.png) [@rangerranger](https://forum.scrt.network/u/rangerranger)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/14 "2021-10-26T02:06:04Z")
Just for background do you need to connect to each chain to send coins between? My understanding is some packet forwarding is coming so you don’t need to link into to them. With that said if Secret wants to be another hub we should connect to as many as we can. I would personally want these: 1. Terra 2. ATOM 3. OSMO 4. Juno (maybe) Sifchain is a shitcoin. Full stop. Imagine OSMO. Now make it less user friendly with less TVL. Isn’t Gravity Dex (Emeris) just a DAPP built on the Hub? ---
**Author:** ![BlockNgine](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/blockngine/32/3257_2.png) [@BlockNgine](https://forum.scrt.network/u/BlockNgine)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/15 "2021-10-26T05:53:18Z")
You need to run full nodes for the relayer software to be able to connect directly to; it needs to connect to them via rpc, grpc and ws. You must also have dedicated keys with funds on so that the relayer can submit transactions and pay for the fees. BlockNgine will be relaying between Secret Network, Terra, Osmosis, Cosmos(Gravity Dex), Sifchain, Akash and Sentinel. We will add more to the list if we see demand from the Secret Community for it. ---
**Author:** ![rangerranger](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.scrt.network/rangerranger/32/1250_2.png) [@rangerranger](https://forum.scrt.network/u/rangerranger)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-ibc-relayers-an-open-discussion/4604/16 "2021-10-26T15:58:56Z")
Beautiful. I cant wait. The Center.